Mordheim: City of the Damned

[CorlissEngine]

Anung Un Rama auf dakkadakka:

 

 

Aaaaand I'm back. Gamescom was great as always, unfortunatly I only had two days this time. As for Mordheim, I'll give you the short version: It looks amazing.  :wow:

 

Will they be using the old rules, updating them or starting from scratch?

New rules. The stats and attributes are different. This is especially important for the order of turns, because the speed of the unit determines his place on the "iniative ladder". You can imagine it kinda like in Final Fantasy X.

 

If this ends up being successful, will they maybe try a Necromunda game in the same engine?

They would, and I quote, love to do that.

 

Is it real time, or turn based? If it's real time, can it be paused to issue commands (like the first Space Hulk video game)?

Does it support campaigns with experience/skills/upgrades? If so, is it worldwide only or can you have a campaign that only includes say your 8 friends?

Turn based. One unit moves after another. The great thing is, you move the unit from a 3rd person perspective. No looking at the whole map. You move and see what your character sees.

At the beginning of the game you pick a warband and use it in the single player campaign and the multiplayer at the same time. So you can play only against your friends and it basically will be a classic Mordheim campaign.

 

How many different warbands?  Will it include Orcs and Goblin warbands?  How about Dwarfs?  What about the Lustrian warbands?

On release there will be 4 warbands: Mercenaries, Sisters, Skaven and Possessed. More are plannend and they intend to let the community pick them.

 

I want lizardmen in a dlc at least in this game. My friends and I are so geared up for this release!

What are the future plans for the other warbands not included on release?

As far as they are concerned, they hope to bring in every warband at some point, but Lizardman are probably far off. They talked about Orcs and Dwarfs though.

 

we have a release date yet? Or did I miss that?

4th quarter 2014, though they do plan to start the Early Access programm pretty soon.

Here's my (German) preview.

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[Grimscull]

Viertes Quartal 14? Aber da kommt doch schon Pillars of Eternity... :-( Wo ich gerade dabei bin, eine Umsetzung a la Baldur's Gate, mit ISO-Sicht usw. hätte sich mMn regelrecht aufgedrängt für dieses Spiel, aber vermutlich kaufen sowas zu Wenige heutzutage. Bin mal gespannt, ob ich mich mit der 3D-Sicht anfreunden kann. Finde ich unübersichtlich, sobald man mehrere Figuren steuert (spiele Skyrim zB auch ohne Söldner). Nette Info aus dem Link: Alle Banden bekommen einen Heavy, der für die Sigmarschwestern wurde zusammen mit GW designt und wird bald vorgestellt.

[obaobaboss]

Ein "monströse Infanterie"-Modell im Spiel für die Schwestern neu designt mit GW's Unterstützung... Da habe ich im Moment tatsächlich überhaupt keine Idee, was das werden könnte. 

[CorlissEngine]

Big Momma!

[Thorin Goldfuß]

Ich find die 3D-Sicht total genial. Nur das sehen, was meine Leute sehen? Überraschungsangriffe, taktisches Spielen, Schreckmomente....wird doch super!

[Schokoladenmann]

Ich find die 3D-Sicht total genial. Nur das sehen, was meine Leute sehen? Überraschungsangriffe, taktisches Spielen, Schreckmomente....wird doch super!

Inwieweit wird das Spiel dadurch "taktischer" (was auch immer das heißt)?

[Grimscull]

Das mit den Höhenunterschieden ist ein Argument. Trotzdem ist es ein anderes Spielen, wenn ich nicht, wie auf dem Tisch, alles sehe. Ob's wirklich taktischer ist in 3D? Ich weiß nicht, bei Schach sehe ich auch die ganze Zeit die Figuren meines Gegners und es ist mir taktisch genug 

 

PS: endlich wieder den ok-Smiley benutzen können, wie schön!

[CorlissEngine]

X3N0 auf dakkadakka:

Adam Smith at Rock Paper Shotgun posts his thoughts from Gamescom:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/08/18/games-workshop-pc-mordheim-xcom/

"If I had a copy, it†™s the game I†™d be playing right now, which is high praise indeed considering that in the week following Gamescom I don†™t usually want to play any games at all."

Sounds promising. It might be wishful thinking but if this creates a buzz.it'd be awesome to have the tabletop version rereleased soon after.

[CorlissEngine]

reds8n auf dakkadakka:

http://connecteddigitalworld.com/2014/08/27/first-look-mordheim-city-damned/

 

Even for those of us who are familiar with tabletop Warhammer it†™s very possible that you haven†™t even heard of Mordheim. Especially as official support for the game has long since stopped. The basic idea is a much smaller focus than standard Warhammer games focusing instead on smaller †˜Warbands†™ instead of armies. Sounds like a great premise for a tactical RPG to me. And the guys at Rogue Factor took the time to show off some of their new game at Gamescom. And I†™m so glad they did.

Despite the fact the build I saw was pre-alpha the game is already looking extremely promising. At it†™s core City of the Damned is a tactical turn based combat game. You control a †˜Warband†™ made up of various (clears throat) †˜heroes†™ and mercenaries from Warhammer. With the lore and massive amount of characters available from the Warhammer universe there†™s already clearly more than enough content for you to create a properly unique squad.

One of the best things that became apparent is that your Warband is actually going to feel like your Warband. There are loads of customization options, loads of equipment slots to fill with loot and RPG style level ups as well. Even with the handful of units I got to see there was a definite sense that each was an actual character and not just a †˜soldier†™ or †˜medic†™ or whatever. Each character has two weapon load outs and plenty more besides. You can even have heavy armour on one shoulder and light on the other which not only looks cool but also has actual tactical benefits.

For example one soldier repeatedly tried to climb a high wall but his heavy armour meant he kept failing the dice roll and falling rather sadly back to the ground. Meanwhile his opponent got into a good position for the inevitable fight. But had he been lucky he would†™ve had the high ground. The glory of dice rolls!

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Movement and positioning play a huge part in any turn based tactical game. Movement is handled in a very similar way to Valkyria Chronicles, which is undoubtedly one of the greatest turn based tactical games ever and one of my all time favourite games. And after me and the nice man from Rogue Factor had spent far too long talking about Valkyria and recommending it to a fellow journalist we managed to get back to City of the Damned. Like Valkyria Chronicles, City of the Damned avoids conventional tile based systems and uses orbs that represent energy. In City of the Damned you get 4 movement orbs, or at least this character did, which are each represented by a blue ring on the ground showing you how far you can move. The one thing me and strategy gamers around the world will love is that you can move back across a blue ring and not expend energy. No more knocking the controls and screwing up the entire game for a single mistake!

Combat is similar to the movement. Your character has a number of orbs they can use to attack. Any that are left over can be used for counter attacks. When you attack you can choose an ability and then †˜roll the dice†™ and see what happens. It†™s difficult to go into more detail because I only saw a handful of abilities but what I saw looked very good. An archer had a †˜knee shot†™ (if you laughed you†™re as sad as me) for example that aimed to cripple his target. The mage had several abilities one of which was very similar to rockets in Xcom: Enemy Unknown, friendly fire and all. Plus all spells have the chance of completely backfiring and even spawning hordes of chaos. There†™s a huge risk reward to the mages which I can†™t wait to either win the game for me or ignite my entire squad and call in hordes of chaos to eat their crispy faces.

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After you defeat an enemy they are unable to move or act for the rest of the battle and you can, if you feel the need, even steal their weapons. And when I say steal I mean it. As in they lose it and you gain it. To keep. Forever. It†™s sadistic and hardcore and it†™s awesome. You going to risk running in with rare loot equipped now? That†™s going to be a dilemma!

So after your squad gets beaten and your lying in ruins as your enemy sprints of with bags of your hard earned swag over their shoulder you get to find out what damage your crew took. They might be fine. They might be out of action for a number of games. They might die, and of course in this game that means they†™re actually gone. Or, and if there is a single feature that will set this game apart this is it, they might take some damage to a limb. Their hand could be crippled and effect their accuracy. They might lose an arm and only be able to wield single handed weapons. Or they might lose a leg and you can choose to have a peg leg and keep your character with some penalties.

So when you go online and an enemy has a peg leg you know this guy has seen action and is probably powerful enough that his owner decided to keep him despite the damage. I don†™t know why this hasn†™t been done before but it†™s ridiculously cool. When you see a damaged character it†™s not just an aesthetic choice something happened to him and he†™s got the scars to prove it. Chaos can supposedly even mutate extra limbs and the arm of the guy we saw had become an axe which meant he had an awesome axe but no hand so couldn†™t change weapons.

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There†™s so much more to say about this game and I cannot wait to get on and play it. It†™s already got procedural maps, which is impressive considering how dense and detailed the environments are. The permadeath, enemy looting and particularly the persistent damage is just plain cool. There†™s PvP and PvE modes and plans to add entire factions as DLC in the future. The gameplay is basically Xcom: Enemy Unknown crossed with Valkyria Chronicles set in a Warhammer universe. They just happen to be two of my favourite games of all time which is useful.

City of the Damned is looking seriously good and I†™ve only seen a small part of it. Easily one of the best games I saw at Gamescom this year and personally I just can†™t wait to get on it. Mordheim: City of The Damned It†™s due for early access late this year or early 2015 on Steam and there†™s possibility of a PS4 version in the future although nothing is confirmed. This is the one to watch for any turn based tactical fan.

 

Und noch ein Pic von angelofvengeance:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwN8O_wIYAAG_25.jpg:large

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[CorlissEngine]

Dakkadakka:

http://redthirst.co.uk/mordheim-p-c-game-qa/

 

 

The games movement and combat are dictated by a units movement and attack points respectively play style of turns. can you explain the turn based game system you will be using a little more ?

The pacing of our video game is slightly different to the pacing of the table top. With Player versus Player, we need something more engaging than playing 10 units for 20 minutes and then wait 20 minutes for your next turn! We parted ways with the alternate Player turns for an Initiative ladder. The initiative of each unit is based on their unit type (Leader, Henchman, Heroes and Impressive unit) along with their equipment and their skills. From there you play your units as based on the initiative ladder†™s order. It ensures a more dynamic game-play that suits perfectly with the fog of war and line of sight game mechanics.

Will war-bands have experience points ? if so how will this add to to game ?

There are multiple level of experience gain
Your units are levelling up, your warband is levelling up as well (used to allow the player to recruit certain type of units..) and finally, you as a player will benefits an experience points system

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What Races will feature in Mordheim the digial game? Once it is  released?

On release, we will have the four following warbands: Skavens of clan Eshin, Human Mercenaries, Sisters of Sigmar and Cult of the Possessed. Some monsters will also roam the gloomy streets of Mordheim… but we can†™t give away more details on that matter though, so stay tuned.

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What was your favourite part of working on this game?

Being a devoted player of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay for the last decade (if not more), I feel right at home on this project. The best part is to incorporate new material to Mordheim, which is not necessarily new to the Warhammer universe, but adds some very cool twists. Bringing such a great game to the digital format is a challenge rewarding in itself!

Were there any unexpected difficulty†™s or challenges in the development of Mordheim?

Indeed. I think difficulties and challenges follow the sun and rise in front of us every day, haha! But there†™s nothing we can†™t tackle. This is a grim and perilous world after all, so it wouldn†™t be Mordheim without some challenges on our way, right? I think we can blame Tzeentch for the small bumps in the road

Were there any large changes you had to make to the rules of the board game?

As mentioned in the introduction, there†™s the player turn by turn rules we modified. Among other rules we changed, units will have new statistics (Alertness for example). We are also bringing enchantment to equipment. All War bands will have 7 units to select from and are capped at 10 units, 1 Leader, 3 Heroes, 1 Impressive unit (like the Rat Ogre) and 5 Henchmen. There†™re more changes, most of them are related to mechanic tweaking and pacing.

What†™s it like working with Games-workshop ? They seem to have a lot of trust in the focus studio.

Rogue Factor†™s relationship with Games-workshop is amazing! A lot of back and forth and sharing of ideas are done. We also have a lot of freedom to create new stuff and modify the rules, while on the other hand we definitely stay within the lore of Warhammer (don†™t worry though, we are among Warhammer†™s biggest fans and we remain very faithful to it!).

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How much input are getting from Games work shop them regarding Mordheim rules and story lines ?

Since we are developing an adaptation that is not a direct digital port per se, we have plenty of leeway and inputs from GW. As for the story line, Mordheim being a special place required a special story that we developed with GW and one of their official Black Library writer.


What was it like working with a iconic part of the grim Warhammer World ?

Personally speaking, it†™s like going home (although none of my characters went to Mordheim in any WRFP games I played). On our team we have fans of every GW products available, from Warhammer fantasy to Warhammer 40k to the Lord of the Ring setting they released as well, so we are all pretty happy working on this project.

Mordheim  in Warhammer  is a  massive derelict city of the damned made of many streets and buildings  in which death lurks behind every corner, and in every alley, how important was it in capturing this atmosphere?

This was one of our main challenge, and we are still working hard to make this even more accurate every day. We†™ll keep working on this until the game is released to bring the best vision of Mordheim we can. Be careful of the mad stuff you†™ll find in the maps, it could be dangerous for your health!


Mordheim the board game still has a  good number of fans,but what kind digitail Gamer do you think will get the most out of Mordheim , Warhammer  fans, fans of the board game, or fans of turn based games?

I think there is something for everyone to enjoy to be honest. Mordheim is a great representation of the world of Warhammer, it is still true to the table top in its core and it is a fun turn based game with challenges of its own.

Do you feel  Mordheim the digial game will live up to the great game play of the  Mordheim board game and  gain new fans from the digital game   ?

I am very confident we will gain new fans, especially those from the Turn-Base strategy game crowd that never played a Warhammer game in any shape or form. I sure hope our adaptation will live up to what the fans would expect from a Mordheim digital adaptation, even if it†™s not a direct representation of all the rules.


Do you have plans to adapt the other original expansions set for  Mordheim like Empire in Flames ?

Right now we are focusing our time and work on the original Mordheim, but it also includes some aspects of Empire in Flames if I can say so. For now I won†™t point out what exactly, but we had enough freedom to get elements from Empire in Flames.

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What races  do you plan to include  in later DLC and expansions for  Mordheim ?

Unfortunately I can†™t comment on that matter at this stage, but we will listen very carefully to the community on this topic. However, I can assure you that we do have plans for the future and they will be influenced by the success of our early access ïŠ

How much room do you think you have to expand the game outside of the original board game and expansions (if you were inclined to do so)?

It†™s hard to say exactly without getting in details or revealing anything, but we do expand outside of what was released for the table top game.

And finally will there be a guild style multi-player part to Mordheim the digital game may be a town crier steam group for setting up campaigns ??

That is an excellent question! We will make sure to look into this and see what we can do! We really want to deliver the players an awesome and well-rounded multi-player experience, so a lot of work will be done on that matter.

 

 p.s any chance of a necrumunda version too ?

Who knows what the future holds for us… It†™s another project we would enjoy working on, that†™s for sure!

cheers dan

Thanks for your interest in Mordheim: City of the Damned!

Bruno Parenteau and the Rogue Factor team

maybe it†™s that energy drink… back to work I go!

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[Hannibor]

Würde mich ja wirklich auf beides freuen.

Gibt´s da irgendwelche angepeilten Releasedates? (Seh da nix oder ich überles das irgendwie)

[EmperorNorton]

Teaser Trailer:

[DieHupe]

Wann haben die das Programmiert? Vor 10 Jahren?

Oder ist das nur nen erster "Look"?

[Spitter]

Ziemliche Retro-Grafik, aber einen Blick ist es allemal wert da Skaven dabei sind...

[Cainroth]

Ich gloob ditt koof ick, wa!

[EmperorNorton]

Da sieht man mal, wie sehr ich aus der Computerspiel-Thematik raus bin: Ich finde die Grafik super. Nur macht der Trailer auf mich einen sehr actionlastigen Eindruck. Aber das muss ja nichts heißen, vielleicht ist es ja trotzdem das taktische Spiel, das ich mir erhoffe.

[Garrtok]

Wann haben die das Programmiert? Vor 10 Jahren?

Oder ist das nur nen erster "Look"?

Die Grafik ist doch absolut gut? oO

[Arac]

Wenns ein iPad spiel wird, ist's OK aber wenn es ein PC oder NextGen Konsolenspiel sein soll, dann ist's schon sehr oldschool.

[Garrtok]

Sowieso ein bisschen das Problem, dass GW an jede no-name Firma die Lizenz rausgibt und immer weiter total minderwertige Warhammerspiele rauskommen - dabei hat das Universum so extrem viel Potential.

[Tribun]

Da sieht man wieder wie alt ich bin und dass ich schon lange nicht mehr Computer spielte. Ich dachte auch die Grafik sei super.

Zum Thema Action: Das Video zeigt doch, dass das Spiel rundenbasiert ist. Der Gegner steht immer nur da, wenn er getroffen wird.

[ApokalypseTest]

ist halt schnelles Geld, wobei ich es bedenklich finde dass die eigentlich starke Marke schnell verwässert wird.

[obaobaboss]

Verstehe die Kritik eigentlich nicht so ganz. Die Grafik ist vielleicht nicht das Maximum der heutigen Zeit, aber von der Stimmung her finde ich die Ausschnitte super. Das Mortheimfeeling kommt für mich gut rüber. 

[HorusVII]

Für mich brauchts auch keine super Grafik, zumal mein alter Rechner das noch vertragen will; viel wichtiger ist da ein anständiges und motivierendes Gameplay.

 

Kann auch Garrtoks Kritik nicht nachvollziehen; die Dawn of War-Reihe scheint mir ganz ordentlich und mit dem alten Shadow of the Horned Rat hatte ich wochenlang sehr viel Spaß, zumal der Nachfolger noch besser gewesen sein soll.

[Grimscull]

Naja, an Skyrim etc. reicht's nicht ran, aber momentan spiele ich (wenn ich denn dazu komme) Icewind Dale II ohne, dass mich die Grafik ankotzt. Schwache Grafik wird bei City of the Damned für mich kein Nicht-Kauf Grund sein

Wer von den alten Hasen hier aber mal wissen will, wie dieses Spiel AUCH hätte aussehen können. kann sich ja mal ein paar Spielausschnitte von Witcher III bei Youtube gönnen ;-)

[Churchill]

Ich lege sonst keinen großen Wert auf eine überragende Grafik, aber das sieht schon sehr lieblos und veraltet aus. Vor 5-7 Jahren wäre das vielleicht noch gut gewesen, ist mittlerweile jedoch längst nicht mehr zeitgemäß.

 

"Dawn of War" und mit Abstrichen "Warhammer Online" waren die einzigen gelungenen Pc-Umsetzungen von GW-Lizenzen in den letzten Jahren. Der Rest war leider absoluter Schrott.

Ich befürchte, dass "Mordheim" sich auch eher unter letzteren einreihen wird.

 

Schade, dass sich keiner mal die Mühe macht ein vernünftiges Computerspiel basierend auf dem Warhammer-Universium zu erstellen. Wobei, besonders viel Mühe gibt sich GW bei seinen Tabletops ja auch nicht...