Gerüchte zu den Eldar

[Kurl Veranek]

Auf The dark City wurde ein Gerücht gepostet das Eldar schießen und danach noch rennen dürfen oder auch umgekehrt.

Wäre cool:ok:

[Asuryan der Große]

Scheinbar sind die ersten Preise durchgesickert.

"Phantomritter" dürfte bei €95 liegen.

Der Iyanden-Codex dürfte bei 39€ liegen, also der selbe Preis wie der Basis-Codex, was mich durchaus verwirrt. Bin mal gespannt ob das so stimmt, dann muss der schon einiges bieten bzw. sollte eigentlich eigenständig nutzbar sein.

[Garrtok]

95?!

Ist vielleicht was viel

[Asuryan der Große]

95?!

Ist vielleicht was viel

Äh, warum? Ist laut Preisliste $115 (Ich gehe mal von US-Dollar aus).

Das dürfte dann ins €95 Preisband fallen, wie Stampfa und Baneblade.

Bei einem Modell dieser Größe durchaus "okay" bzw. "normal".

Wenn es nachher weniger werden sollten, mir nur recht.^^

Stutzig macht mich wie gesagt eher der Iyaden-Codex

[Garrtok]

Mir doch egal ob das normal ist, es ist trotzdem sau teuer.

Erinner mich immer wieder gerne dran, meine Freundin wollte sich irgendwas für ihr Auto kaufen, was ~250 € gekostet hätte.

Ich zu ihr "Guck mal da auf dem Tisch die 5 Figuren, die sind auch so viel wert". Schon n mieses Gefühl wenn man für Plastik so viel ausgibt.

von warseer:

this is the release list that my local game store sent out to us today. enjoy.

13249999406 501192104363-7 WD06-13 WHITE DWARF JUNE 2013 (NAS) White Dwarf 18-May-13 25-May-13 RTD AWSL 11 10

60030104005 978178253019-0 46-01-60 CODEX: ELDAR (ENGLISH) Codex/Army Book 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 59.5 49.5

60220104001 501192104666-9 46-02-60 WH40K PSYCHIC POWERS: ELDAR ENG Hobby Product 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD AWSL 9 7.5

99070104001 501192199806-7 46-05 ELDAR FARSEER Plastic Clam 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 25 20

99120104030 501192103163-4 46-25 ELDAR WRAITHKNIGHT Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 140 115

99120104031 501192104708-6 46-13 ELDAR WRAITHGUARD Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 60 50

99120104032 501192104726-0 46-14 ELDAR HEMLOCK WRAITHFIGHTER Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 80 65

99120104033 501192104709-3 46-15 ELDAR DIRE AVENGERS Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 40 35

99120104034 501192104727-7 46-10 ELDAR BATTLEFORCE Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 140 115

99120104035 501192104728-4 46-06 ELDAR WINDRIDER JETBIKE SQUADRON Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 45 40

99800104026 501192104661-4 46-64 ELDAR SPIRITSEER Finecast Clam 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Splash 21.75 19.25

99800104027 501192104663-8 46-65 ILLIC NIGHTSPEAR Finecast Clam 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Splash 21.75 19.25

99120101101 501192104729-1 48-28 SPACE MARINE SCOUT BIKE SQUAD Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 45 40

99120101102 501192104730-7 48-11 SPACE MARINE BIKE SQUAD Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 45 40

99120102040 501192104731-4 43-08 CHAOS BIKERS Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 45 40

99120110025 501192104734-5 49-08 NECRON DESTROYERS Plastic Box 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 RTD Range 60 50

99800104028 501192104830-4 - ELDAR AUTARCH ON JETBIKE UPGRADE KIT Finecast Clam 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 D Range 21.75 19.25

60040104003 978178253027-5 - CODEX: ELDAR LIMITED EDITION Other Book 25-May-13 1-Jun-13 D AWSL 120 100

60030104006 978178253107-4 - IYANDEN: A CODEX ELDAR SUPPLEMENT Codex/Army Book 15-Jun-13 15-Jun-13 D Range 59.5 49.5

60040104004 978178253113-5 - IYANDEN CODEX SUPPLEMENT SPECIAL EDITION Other Book 15-Jun-13 15-Jun-13 D AWSL 100 8

von heresy-online:

-You can make Run moves in addition to shooting Shuriken weapons.

-Shuriken weapons have a rule which makes them ignore armor on a to-wound roll of a 6-- similar to rending, but it's not actually the Rending rule.

-The Wraithknight starts at about 250 points and caps around 350, and towers over even the Tau Riptide. It's 9'' tall. The Wraithknight has the ability for its weapons to become twin-linked if it hits with a scatter laser it comes equipped with, even against airborne targets. It can shoot S9 and 10 small blasts, and has a total of four weapons on it-- you have a choice of several, including a huge wraithblade and a lance weapon.

- Wraithguard are cheaper both points-wise and financially speaking, and are now S5 and T6, and have the option to be equipped with Wraithblades as per the current Codex's in place of their guns, making them a dangerous close combat unit.

- Including a Spiritseer as a HQ choice allows you to bring Wraithguard as Troops.

- Expect Guardians to supplant Dire Avengers as the staple Troops choice-- they're very points efficient and with the buff to shuriken weapons, they should expect to be in a lot of competitive armies.

-The Fire Prism has been nerfed a bit-- basically, they want to drive people back towards Aspect Warrior and Wraith-heavy armies, rather than the mechanized Eldar army literally everyone and their brother played with the exact same list. Can't really say to what extent, but the purchasing advice was to "Not load up on them."

-The Avatar is "Definitely better."

-The Iyanden supplement is not a splash release, and will be normally available. Iyanden is strictly a fluff book, and contains no game rules. The rules to play a themed Iyanden army are found completely in Codex: Eldar. This is a move to appease people who want more fluff in books as well as people who would rather just have more game content with the fluff optional. This is an experiment in seeing how this works-- if it does well, expect Games Workshop to continue with the release of "chapter-specific" fluff supplements for their Codex releases.

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[Gizur]

Da könnte ich glatt schwach werden und ne Xenos Armee beginnen.

[Jin]

Iyanden is strictly a fluff book, and contains no game rules.

Wenn der Kurs auch bei 39 Euro liegt, dann werden wohl viele vorerst drauf verzichten.

Ich hoffe, dass der Preis des Wraithknight nicht bei 95 Euro liegt. Ansonsten würden GW den Preis mit der Aussage erhöhen, dass dieser so "groß" sei. Der reine Plastikanteil würde dabei sogar noch abnehmen....

[Hive2003]

Also an 95€ kann ich nicht glauben. Der würde eher zum Riptide passen.

[Garrtok]

So, es gibt wieder neues !

From powerguy on Dakkadakka:

Got a sneak peek of the White Dwarf today, managed to dig out some actual rules from the battle report, preview teasers and a couple of tiny pages from the codex that were printed in the WD that I managed to read. Not many stats on offer but still a reasonable chunk of rules. I'm probably mis-remembering the names of some of these rules but here is what I picked up in no particular order:

- From what I saw all the non Wraith infantry have the run/shoot shoot/run ability (the rule was called Battle something). Avengers definitely do (from the report) and Rangers definitely do (from tiny printed profile in the WD) as well. Not sure if its just for Shuriken weapons (Rangers do have Pistols I guess).

- It looks likes all Eldar have the 'Ancient Foe' special rule, no idea what this does but I suspect its something like Hatred Daemons of Slaneesh (don't think it was Necron related as the report was against Crons) since all Eldar appear to have it (including the Wraith units).

- There are 14 Eldar specific psychic powers from 2 different charts, Runes of Battle and Runes of Fate. However it looks like several of the powers are 2 in 1, i.e they have a buff mode and a debuff mode, so there are actually HEAPS of powers. I.e the Primaris for Battle is Conceal/Reveal (as a single card/roll etc), Conceal gives you Shrouded and Reveal removes Shrouded from an enemy. The 1 on the Battle Chart was Destructor/Renew(?), Destructor being the same as before with Soul Blaze added and Renew allowing you to restore a wound to a friendy model within range (18" I think). Primaris for Runes of Fate was Guide, which is now 24" range but is otherwise the exact same as before. Very surprising to see this as aside from the range it is far worse than the Divination Primaris (although I guess you could take both and effectively Guide two units). The 1 on the Fate Chart was a terrible Focuses Witchfire power. Fortune and Doom are still options (the Farseer in the report had them) and appear to have the same effects.

- The Avatar has Fleet. Also one of the psychic powers increases your movement speed/charge range somehow

- The Wraithknight is insanely huge, it is literally twice the height of a Wraithlord, and the sword option it can take is basically the size of a Wraithlord as well. It can take up to 2 Suncannons, which are S6 AP2 Heavy 3 Small Blast or up to 2 Wraithlances(?) which are presumably the heavy anti tank option. Sword replaces one of the big guns I think (they are arm mounted like the Titans). This is in addition to the two shoulder mounted heavy weapons (I saw Scatters and Starcannons, so presumably the normal range of heavy weapons are available)

- Wraithguard and Wraithblades look good, think scaled down Wraithlords. They looked a bit bigger than the old ones, but I think it was partly just the added range of motion in the poses on 40mm bases (similar to the old 25mm base Terminators vs the newer 40mm base ones, they are bigger but the better poses help as well). Wraithguard can now get either Wraithcannons (which from the fluff descriptions seemed to still be single shot and very powerful) or D Scythes which were described as a multi shot weapon but it could still Pen vehicles on a 6. Wraithblades are only 1A base (sadly) but looked like they could go either 2 CCW (no idea on stats of their weapons, but they appeared to have sword/axe options) or 1 CCW + Shield gen arm.

- Wraithguard are definitely S5 T6, Lord is almost certainly not T6 (a full unit of Destroyers shot one in the report and did nothing, which suggests T8 or some other equivalent buff). No idea on the stats for the Knight.

- It looks like Aspect Warriors have the same base profile, include Exarches with Ld9

- Reapers have Slow and Purposeful

- Rangers have WS4. They also have a character (not sure if he is upgrade or HQ) who has a 120" range Sniper Rifle.

- One of the fliers has 2 Heavy D Scythes on the wings and a psychic based main gun. The other has 2 Bright Lances and a Pulse Laser.

- Saw stats for what looked like special weapons for characters, might have been for Special Characters as well since the 120" range sniper was in there. One weapon was +2S, AP- Melee, Rending, Fleshbane, Instant Death. Another was +1S AP3, Soul Blaze, and if you killed anything with Soul Blaze then every unit within 6" of that unit would become effected by Soul Blaze as well. There was also a one use only piece of wargear, which you could use when the character died. On a 2+ you place a S4 AP3 template over the character, hitting both friend and foe, but if you cause at least 1 wound then the character stands back up with 1 wound. Last one I saw was an item which gave the user Fearless, Shrouded, Stealth and re-roll cover saves but they lose the IC rule, which gives people a way to make a Solitare (the name was something to do with the Laughing God).

[Garrtok]

Gut das hier diskutiert wird !

Achja hab ein Bild - leider böseste Qualität.

http://i.imagebanana.com/img/lf9q5amw/image.jpg

Der Knight ist ja gar nicht so groß *hust*. Der Avatar geht dem ja nichtmals bis zum Knie

Sehe es schon kommen Wraitharmeen gegen Kampfanzüge der Tau - Gundambattle

[Garthor]

Wenn der gute Regeln kriegt, werden Eldar dann wohl eher eine Armee, die man nur zu Hause spielt.^^

Koennte echt Stampfagroeße sein, oder?

[Hive2003]

Wenn der gute Regeln kriegt, werden Eldar dann wohl eher eine Armee, die man nur zu Hause spielt.^^

Was meinst du damit?

[Desaster]

Der Wraithknight ist ja mal echt ein Hammer!

Weiss man schn ob man mit dem neuen Codex eine Geisterkrieger-Armme spielen kann (also nur Seher, Wraith-Guard, -Lord, - Knight)?

[Garthor]

Was meinst du damit?

Den Transport.

Wenn ich außerhalb von zu Hause spiele, nehme ich zumeist z.B. meinen Orkbomber garnicht mit, weils dann wieder ne Tasche mehr braucht.

Der ist aber eben auch entbehrlich. Die Frage ist, wie das bei dem Phantomlord auf Speed ist. Wenn man 2-3 davon braucht, ist ohne Auto nicht viel zu machen

[Garrtok]

Der Wraithknight ist ja mal echt ein Hammer!

Weiss man schn ob man mit dem neuen Codex eine Geisterkrieger-Armme spielen kann (also nur Seher, Wraith-Guard, -Lord, - Knight)?

Zumindest macht der Seher die Guards zu Standardeinheiten.

[Hive2003]

Der Wraithknight ist ja mal echt ein Hammer!

Weiss man schn ob man mit dem neuen Codex eine Geisterkrieger-Armme spielen kann (also nur Seher, Wraith-Guard, -Lord, - Knight)?

Ich hoffe es. Giere schon danach meine Iyanden Armee auszupacken. Aber den einen oder anderen Aspekt nehme ich mit.

[Garrtok]

von dakkadakka

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[Hive2003]

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Cool. Passen doch schön in die Range. Nur: Warum haben sie die denn nicht gelb gemacht? Jetzt wo auch noch ein Zusatzheftchen kommt...

Denke mein Plan wenig auszugeben ist schon gescheitert. 2-4 Boxen Droiden, 1 Läufer und den Flieger ( den ich optisch noch nicht so gut finde...)

[Navare]

Die neuen Wraithguard sind ja auch riesig! Bzw der Avatar winzig, mal sehen was ich dann mit meinen alten Droiden mache

Und 5 Jäger für 30 Tacken ? Äh ja...gut das ich schon 20 habe.

Edit: Komisch...ich finde den Flieger grade besonders schick

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[Desaster]

Ach verdammt, also doch wieder 40K? Ich wollte doch nicht mehr...

[Garrtok]

Noch eins von dakkadakka:

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2818/1369141469622.jpg

[Hive2003]

Die neuen Wraithguard sind ja auch riesig! Bzw der Avatar winzig, mal sehen was ich dann mit meinen alten Droiden mache

Und 5 Jäger für 30 Tacken ? Äh ja...gut das ich schon 20 habe.

Wo gibt's denn den neuen Avatar zu sehen?

Noch eins von dakkadakka:

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2818/1369141469622.jpg

Mh sehen irgendwie wie 70er/80er Jahre Flieger aus.

[Garrtok]

Wo gibt's denn den neuen Avatar zu sehen?

Mh sehen irgendwie wie 70er/80er Jahre Flieger aus.

Seite 4 letzter Post

[Hive2003]

Seite 4 letzter Post

Ich bin hier erst auf Seite 3 .

Außerdem ist das ja auch der alte...

[Garrtok]

Ich bin hier erst auf Seite 3 .

Außerdem ist das ja auch der alte...

Sagen wir der aktuelle