Necromunda - Gerüchte & Ankündigungen

[Gorgoff]

vor 4 Minuten schrieb Ulricson:

 

 

Dachte ich auch. Orlock den Hund, Goliath das Krokodil, Escher die Katzen und Van Saar die Roboterspinne...

Wir werden es erfahren. Wichtig ist, dass dann direkt die Modelle kommen. 

Ach und wieviele Credits die kosten. 

Die Kopfgeldjäger kann man ja leider auch in der Pfeife rauchen, weil die viel zu teuer sind. 

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[Herr Sobek]

Stört mich weniger, wenn die Modelle passen. Yolanda Skorne hab ich schon als Escher Ganger in meine Reihen aufgenommen, der Kerl mit Hund und Hammer wäre ein ordentlicher Boss oder Champ für eine Orlock-Gang. Aber ja, als Kopfgeldjäger würde ich die nicht aufnehmen für ihre Credits.

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[Gorgoff]

vor 6 Minuten schrieb Devilz_Advocate:

Stört mich weniger, wenn die Modelle passen. Yolanda Skorne hab ich schon als Escher Ganger in meine Reihen aufgenommen, der Kerl mit Hund und Hammer wäre ein ordentlicher Boss oder Champ für eine Orlock-Gang. Aber ja, als Kopfgeldjäger würde ich die nicht aufnehmen für ihre Credits.

Das stimmt... 

[Helle]

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/2018/artel-w-neue-law-enforcement-unit/

 

Arbites anyone?

[Gorgoff]

vor 9 Minuten schrieb Helle:

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/2018/artel-w-neue-law-enforcement-unit/

 

Arbites anyone?

Die Modelle sehen klasse aus, auch wenn es da im Moment zumindest noch keine Regeln für gibt.

[Helle]

Geht direkt weiter...

 

Neues cooles Zeug...

 

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/searchResults?N=2910359654+995043222

[Mascharius]

Ja toll okay, ich muss wohl auch Anfangen.

Kann mir einer aller relevanten Infos dazu geben?

Was brauch ich zum Start? Ich würde wohl als erste Hauptfraktion Orlocks anpeilen.

Grundset muss man ja wegen den starter Regeln holen, da würde ich dann evt. die Esher behalten um mal mit Leuten zu zocken die nix haben.

[Helle]

vor 3 Minuten schrieb Mascharius:

Was brauch ich zum Start? Ich würde wohl als erste Hauptfraktion Orlocks anpeilen.

Grundset muss man ja wegen den starter Regeln holen, da würde ich dann evt. die Esher behalten um mal mit Leuten zu zocken die nix haben.

 

Regelbuch, Gang War Bücher und Minis.

[Gorgoff]

vor 52 Minuten schrieb Mascharius:

Ja toll okay, ich muss wohl auch Anfangen.

Kann mir einer aller relevanten Infos dazu geben?

Was brauch ich zum Start? Ich würde wohl als erste Hauptfraktion Orlocks anpeilen.

Grundset muss man ja wegen den starter Regeln holen, da würde ich dann evt. die Esher behalten um mal mit Leuten zu zocken die nix haben.

Helle sagte es ja schon.

Du brauchst die Grundbox für das Grundbuch und die Zone Mortalis(ist easy zu transportieren und macht großen Spaß darauf zu spielen), Gang War I für die Kampagnenregeln und Gang War II für die Orlock. 

Optional sind die Orlock Würfel und die Orlock Taktischen Karten. Letztere kann man nehmen, aber braucht man eigentlich nicht unbedingt. Im Grundspiel sind zwei komplette Stapel taktische Karten drin, die schon sehr viele umfassen.

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BOAH dieses Handy

[Gorgoff]

DOPPELPOSTACTION

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/04/27/may-white-dwarf-preview-27-aprgw-homepage-post-2/

 

Neue Gang!

Jetzt kann man sich eine selbst bauen. Richtig cool. Ich bin echt gespannt.

[Helle]

Und schon sind die Arbitrs Spielbar.

 

[Gorgoff]

vor 1 Stunde schrieb Helle:

Und schon sind die Arbitrs Spielbar.

 

Habe ich auch sofort gedacht. Ich renne morgen mal zum GW und hole mir den WD von diesem Monat und nerve ihn mit dem nächsten. 

Das ist echt eine coole Entwicklung, weil man jetzt quasi auch alle Fremdhersteller dazu bekommt. 

[Oberst Montan]

Brutes: add extra muscle to your gang with this new type of hanger-on, including profiles and rules for the following characters: Luther Pattern Excavation Automata and ‘Kratos’’ H-Grade Servitor Ogryn;

 

 

Auf das Modell für den Ogryn bin ich mal gespannt.

[Herr Sobek]

Woher stammt das mit den Brutes denn? Venator Gangs? Dann nehme ich an, darf man sich aus der Plastikbox einen basteln. Das wird doch als Spielwiese für Umbauer beworben, nicht?

[Halbling]

Andy Hoare hat gerade auf FB bestätigt, daß die Regeln mit der Absicht geschrieben wurde, die Brücke zu Inq28 zu schlagen:

 

 

Den WD werd ich mir auch holen...der erste seit annähernd 10 Jahren.

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[Oberst Montan]

vor 4 Stunden schrieb Devilz_Advocate:

Woher stammt das mit den Brutes denn? Venator Gangs? Dann nehme ich an, darf man sich aus der Plastikbox einen basteln. Das wird doch als Spielwiese für Umbauer beworben, nicht?

 

Das stammt aus dem Inhalt von GangWar 3. 

[Herr Sobek]

Okay, habs jetzt in der Produktbeschreibung von GW3 auf der Website nochmal gelesen und da klingt es tatsächlich so, als würde und FW noch mit einem Ogryn für Necromunda überraschen.

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[Gorgoff]

Ich halte GW3 für einen Pflichtkauf. Da scheint so viel cooles Zeug drin zu sein.

Und ich freue mich drauf.

[Oberst Montan]

Hier noch ein paar Infos über Gang War 3 von Dakkadakka:

 

Enentol - Yaktribe

Home sick, so I took some notes from the WarhammerTV Gang War 3 preview. I missed the first hour (thought it was GMT, not BST), but the second hour was full of info. Caught some of the battle report too.

This is the first book of the series with the two new Necromunda leads writing it. It seems to contain a ton of stuff.


Van Saars

I’m guessing they covered the Van Saar list in the first hour, cause they really didn’t talk about it much. Along with Van Saars, there's a few named characters/hired-guns including new Orlock with the cyber mastiff.

Van Saar are obviously the shooty and technological gang. They’re frail, not liking close combat – so toys to compensate. Bad initiative.

Easy access to plasma, suppression lasers (laser shotguns?!), grav weapons in house list.They said that Van Saar lasguns are better than standard – but I’m not sure how. Rad Cannon and Rad Grenades in house list as well. Rad Cannon is range 32, Blast.

New Rad-phage rule – models hit take a flesh wound regardless of the wound/injury results. Van Saar suits mean they’re immune to rad.


Brutes

Brutes are hireable, big dumb guys. They include things like Ambots and Slave Ogryns. They’re a new class of Hanger On.

The list will be greatly expanded in the future. Each gang will be getting a themed brute.

Brutes are slow, but hit hard in close combat. However, they may not always do what you want.


Pets

Pets are upgrades for leaders and champions. There are limits for how many you can take based on pet type. Eg. One guy can take up to 3 cyber mastiffs. Not sure if there’s a gang limit though – or just capped at champion limit.

Pets usually have to stay close to the model that owns them. Can't go further than 3". Some have extended ranges, like Escher Phyrr cats that can go up to 9".

Each pet has different advantages and rules. Eg. Fighters can’t be coup de grace’d when they have a cyber mastiff. Cyber mastiffs are better at detection of attackers during sentry missions. Van Saar cyberarachnid is great on terrain and has different weapon modules they can plug in.

Pets can gain limited skills. Skill lists reflect gangs they're from.

Confirmed pets in GW3: cyber mastiff, phyrr cats, sump croc, cyberarachnid, caryatid.

Caryatid is a weird cherub baby thing that is attracted to lucky gangers and makes them luckier. But, if you start to fail, it can betray you.


Trading Post

Trading post = "Crazy amount of new stuff". Contains all house weapons and all imperial weapons from 40k. Some weapons are still house-exclusive (eg. Escher chem-thrower).

Gangs can have different prices for different weapons.

Huge amount of new wargear including force fields and displacer fields.

Lots of ammo and armour types.

Servo skulls are new wargear with lots of different types that have different bonuses.

No xenos weapons "yet", but lots of stuff that hasn't been seen before on 40k battlefields.

House lists have been extended so there are more options at creation time. Eg. everyone can take heavy stubbers when they create gangs now. Not sure if this means that there is an extended “house item list” for everyone, or if it’s the whole trading post open at gang creation.


Expanded Campaign Rules

Tons of new campaign rules (think Turf War 2.0). A big expansion.

Expanded role of arbitrator
More advice and guidance on running campaigns.
Balancing mechanisms for gangs – buffs for lower gangs, challenges for better gangs.
New options for battles, campaign events.

Introduces monsters, independent gangs (gilder watchmen, or other groups with narrative roles in the scenarios)


Narrative Scenarios

A lot of new scenarios Each scenario can be played in either Zone Mortalis or Sector Mechnicus styles. Each can be played as a skirmish, campaign, or "arbitrated campaign game" (add monsters, etc.)

Last Stand: Was the Warhammer TV battle report. One gang sets up whole crew within 6” of the middle of table as defender. Attackers can start on any and all table edges. Attacker has 7 turns to wipe defenders. When an attacker model is knocked out of action, it gets recycled back on as a reinforcement. Not sure if they can bring on new models as reinforcements.

Escape the Pit: Two gangs are down in a disused part of the hive. Some ancient mechanism has come to life and the walls start to close in garbage compactor-style (or a hive section starts collapsing, etc.). Start with gangs on either side of the board and an escape point in the middle. Grab loot and get out. At the end of each turn, there’s a chance that the hive closes in. Eg. take a board tile off if playing 2D or reduce playing size by 6" if playing 3D. Gangers have a chance to scramble out of the section right before it goes.

Downtown Dustup: Two gangs have found themselves in a settlement. Both are claiming its as their own. NPC civilian hive-dwellers are scattered around the bord. They'll react to combat (behaviour table with 3? random results). Gotta keep the civilians alive and protect them to have better rewards post-mission.

Shootout: It’s back! Similar to 1st edition. Big rep rewards for holding nerve.
Caravan Heist: Great for making money. A guilder caravan moves slowly across the board and one gang has to defend it from ambushers. Can model the caravan as trucks, wagons, etc. Can kit the caravan model out with heavy stubbers, flamers, etc. for defense. “Tough nut to crack, but lots of money to be made.”

Spook Harvest: One gang fights their way into a spook-growing area. Gotta harvest as much as you can and get out. When you harvest, there’s a chance it'll mess you up. You have to roll on a table (not sure if it happens if you fail a test, or every time). Results:
Oh god oh god oh god: ganger panics, may attack his friends
It’s like the universe is in my mind: random “power”
Today, I am the emperor: “you are your ‘best self’ and you go and thrash people”

In the Dark: Gang fight, but in total darkness. “Pitch Black” rules in effect. Can see about 3”. Wargear can help you overcome (night vision goggles, etc.). Muzzle flashes (or being on fire) give you away. Horrors and monsters may lurk in the dark.

Monster Hunt: Uses tentacle terrain piece - but LOTS of them. A bounty has been placed on a monster – but you have to go flush it out first. Tentacles start to pop up as gangers get seriously injured. After you kill a certain amount, the giant monster turns up. Gang who gets killing blow gets tons of money.


Multiplayer

New rules for multiplayer games - including MP-specific scenarios.

They ran out of time, but one example was "Pit fight", where each player takes one of their champions to brawl gladiator-style.

 

Cronewald - Yaktribe

They said they are saving the Van Saar for a more in depth look next week. The first hour was mostly a flip though of the book. It overlapped a bit with the second hour but was still interesting.

They showed off some of the artwork and talked about where some of the ideas came from. For example, a number of the ideas for pets and brutes came from Andy's work on the FFG 40k rpgs. The Ambots use an Actual Ambull brain to skirt the no A.I. rule. The ones the gangs use have had their safety locks removed and revert to basic instincts.

One thing I found interesting was that Trish Morison sculpted the pets while her daughter, who also works for Forgeworld, did the concept art for them.

I can't remember, this may have been where they talked about status items for gang leaders. It's mostly bling like gold plated weapons and fancy clothes but with a little bit of rules attached.

So mostly background and pretty pictures, not much that's going to directly impact gameplay, but still nice to see some insight into the design process.

[Gorgoff]

Mann das hört sich aber besser an als Buch2. 

[Gorgoff]

Von Garro:

Zitat

t got my white dwarf, and thought I’d share a general overview of the new Venator Gang for Necromunda, as its one of the gangs I’ve been most looking forward to.

GENERAL OVERVIEW the Venators are basically gangs of bounty hunters and mercenaries that have banded together for a particular job or formed a BH company of sorts. They’re designed to use FW’ s range of hired guns, and regular gangers, but really are focused around allowing players to really go to town with design ideas, such as the kind of things you see in a Blanchitsu article for example)

GANG BUILD Venator gangs can have Hunt Leaders (leaders), Hunt Champions (champions), and Hunters (gangers) they don’t have a juve class. All models can have up to 5 weapons, but only one of which can be unwieldy. Each class has four starting profiles, which are selected from at creation. these represent various sterotypes (fast but fragile, strong but slow .etc) Venator gangs don’t have a house list but instead use the trading post from the start. each class has an attached rarity value they can select gear upto. any model may buy a ‘house legacy’ which allows them access to that particular houses ‘house list’ allowing them access to unique weapons or simply cheaper weapons. Venator gangs can mix and match house legacies as much as they like, but no model can have more than one. SKILLS when starting the gang, you select any four skill sets (other than leadership), and label them 1,2,3, and 4. skill sets 1 and 2, become your gangs primary skills for all models, and skill sets 3 and 4 become secondaries. Hunter Leaders and champions still get Leadership skill as primary and secondary as usual.

CAMPAIGN RULE CHANGES as with previous White Dwarf gangs, the Venator gangs have altered rules in campaigns due to their particular gang build and background. Venator gangs do not collect turf, as such can not gain or lost it in battles nor hold any special territories. They instead gain a ‘retaining fee’ each cycle from their patron which uses their gang rep instead of number of territories. Hunt Leaders can attempt a ‘work the turf’ action in post game, but this represents them requesting additional funding from their backers. but on a roll of a 1 you get just get no funding rather than the usual result. Venator gangs can also gain credits by capturing and killing enemy gangers. They must always sell prisoners to the guilders when able, and collect the models full value. They also gain credits when an enemy fighter is killed (injury table killed) after a game, but only get half the value of the fighter (representing them collecting a bounty on that model) The fighters collect Experience as normal for their relative class. Venator gangs can hire hangers on, and hired guns as usual, but can only hire Dramatis Personae bounty hunters not custom bounty hunters. custom hive scum are fine. Venator gangs do however have a different table for how many they can have for their level of reputation. That’s All I feel able to share, and I hope it gives you all a strong overview of the gang and how it works. I’ve already got a few different ideas for gangs using this rules set (especially once I get my hands on GW3) and look forward to sharing them in the future and seeing

 

[Oberst Montan]

Diese Gangregeln klingen spitze, da lässt sich einiges mit machen, z.B.eine ganze Bande aus Squats 

[Gorgoff]

vor 16 Stunden schrieb Oberst Montan:

Diese Gangregeln klingen spitze, da lässt sich einiges mit machen, z.B.eine ganze Bande aus Squats 

Das ist echt eine coole Idee. Klar lässt sich sowas natürlich auch immer ausnutzen, aber das macht ja keiner bei Necromunda.

 

So kann man auf jeden Fall auch mal Arbitratoren spielen oder was auch immer einem so gerade einfällt.

[Mascharius]

Gibt es eine Liste in welchen White Dwarfs welche Regeln sind.

Bzw. kommt man doch nur so an die Regeln für den Chaoskult und die des Genesteeler Cult oder?

[Oberst Montan]

Ich lege im Laufe der Woche mal eine Übersicht an.