Gerüchte zu den Eldar

[Aknorb]

Bringt halt ein paar Nachteile mit sicher:

- Redering währe immer autom bei der Waffe mit dabei

- Doom ist eine Power, die erst gewirkt werden muss

- Doom hat dann nur eine Reichweite

- Um die Power zu wirken braucht man immer einen Runenseher/-leser

Alles in allem würden die Gardisten, und andere Einheiten mit Shurikenwaffen, mit Sicherheit aufgewerdet werden, aber so viel??

[Chosen One]

Das größte Problem sehe ich dabei vor allem darin, wie man Shurikenkanone, Impulslaser und Sternenkanone untereinander attraktiv machen kann, vor allem der Unterschied zwischen Impulslaser und Shurikenkanone ist da ein echtes Problem wie ich finde...

Die Shurikenkatapulte selbst brauchen einfach mehr Reichweite. Mit 18" wären sie absolut okay und keiner würde sich mehr beschweren...

Allerdings wäre der Unterschied zu den Jägern dann wieder kleiner, insofern glaube ich da noch nicht dran. 12" Standardwaffen sind meines Erachtens aber völlig danben und inakzeptabel...

Gruß CF

[Chosen One]

Quelle: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32213&page=54

Just to take the talk off the farseer and a possible stat change (which is gratting on me a bit now) i was told today that harlies WILL be in the new dex, he said that he's seen the minies (in resin so i cant say wether there pastic or metal) he doesnt know whether there just base harlies or if there are others included (solitair, gr8 harlie etc).

he said that the resin models are the one which feature in the dex pics and so i can only assume that the dex is nearing completion but every one at my store does not know of an august release and only an end of year one (nov/dec)

Quelle: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32213&page=55

Yes, they will be an Elites choice for Eldar. However from what I've seen/heard they won't all fit into *one* slot according to the old ways of doing things.......so here's hoping for some pleasant surprises.

No, I haven't seen them, living on the other side of the planet and all and even if I had, do you think I'd be allowed to tell? Wouldn't risk my sources and all that.

My money's on metal. In fact I'll bet a box of the new Harlequins that they'll be in metal. Plastic is only for large volume sellers - Harlequins do *not* fit this bill. Yet.

<crosses fingers and hopes for summer - is resigned to fall>

Gruß CF

[Chosen One]

Quelle: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32922

You didn't hear it from me but there are new harlaquins in the works and the models are supposed to be an absolute pantwetter. They are set to be an elites choice for the new eldar army, no new army sadly.

Also the Avatar is now bigger and better sculpted (they had to start again) and is summoned onto the battlefield via the young king. Though this is against the fluff, you know, you go to the throne of the avatar and are possesed there and become him immidiately and etc. but oh well.

Gruß CF

[Chosen One]

Quelle: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=92295

Had a chat with my local GW area manager yesterday, and he's given a couple of useful bits of info on the current playtesting of the new Eldar codex. He's pretty reliable when it comes to these things so I trust these facts are true.

The Eldar are currently being playtested with the Starcannon being reduced to 2 shots.

The Wraithlord is being tested in two forms. One has it at it's current stats but restricted to a 0-1 choice. The other has it's Toughness reduced to 7.

No word on the supposed Shuriken Cannon being reclassed as Rending though.

Aha...

Von der Sache mit dem PL halte ich nix. Ich spiele so schon nur maximal einen PL, mit W7 wäre der im Gegensatz zu anderen Sachen absolut nutzlos...

Und Sternenkanonen mit 2 Schuss, hmm, kein Plan. Dann muss sie aber definitiv billiger sein...

Gruß Matthias

[Tuladrias]

Yup, Eldarspieler mit 3 PL´s haben es schwer, Gegner zu finden.

Wollen die die Eldar jetzt etwa noch "downgraden"? Oh weiha! SK mit nur noch 2 Schuß? Dann aber bitte billiger, als Plasmakanone oder mit höherer Stärke.

Mich würde mal eher interessieren, ob bestimmte Aspektkrieger evtl. SOnderregeln wie "dürfen nach dem Aussteigen angreifen" bekommen!!! Der Artikel im M5-Booklet im WD wäre sonst ziemlicher Quark, und er enthält ja schon eine "Autarchin" (was die nun auch immer können mag).

[Eldanesh]

Also: die gerüchte halte ich für gegenstanslos -einfach weil nicht (mehr) getestet wird: der Codex ist schon seit geraumer zeit fix&fertig....

[Chosen One]

Was ja auch heißt, dass sie endgültig feststehen...

SK mit 2 Schuss wären einfach nur albern. Das hat doch nur den Grund, dass die Marine-Spieler alle rumheulen. Wenn die anderen Waffen sinnvoll wären, dann würde man die auch öfter sehen und da wir ja praktisch keine Standardwaffen haben, hat man halt ein paar mehr schwere Waffen...

Gruß CF

[Chosen One]

Quelle: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35223

(sorry if already posted but did not find all this info) Just to let you know a reliable source told me that everything but the Vyper ,Falcon, and wave serpent are being redone and the dire Avenger exarch is going to be PLASTIC and have LOTS of options he said that the exarch will have 4 options for arms two for each side and that the 2 new different kinds of wraithlords one will be one holding a big gun and one armed like the current but they will look like mini reveanent Titans. He said this is all coming in November. And he said they will have a new range of Farseers and Warlocks and every other type of footsoldier will be redone. Sadly I did not hear anything about a new warwalker coming out but he said he did not see every new release. He said there would be a model of the Eldar builder from Dawn Of War forgot the name. (if you already know this let me know)

Quelle: http://www.dakkadakka.com/Default.aspx?tabid=93&forumid=6&postid=67928&view=topic

Got my WD yesterday. Two supplements included in this month’s WD. First is a bitz catalog with primarily dwarf bitz. The second supplement is for the Fall of Medusa V. It includes background, overall objectives for different US stores, and army descriptors. The armies’ missions all seen generic, although the ‘Nids are after the Death Leaper Lictor genes and a Necron lord named the Storm Lord of the Herald of the Storm will be awakened to lead the harvest.

This WD continues the same semi-confusing format of the previous magazines.

New Releases includes an Urban Basing Kit, CoD death counter set, Ork Big Mek ($13), Ork Kommando with burna ($8). Ork Kommado with big Shoota ($8), 5 Kommandos for $25.

Two page teaser on the Eldar Codex release in October. Including nice new Dire Avengers plastics (shown), and new Howling Banshee and Fire Dragon models. There is also a picture of 3 new War Walkers with the new enclosure. It does look like the top of a Jet bike or Vyper.

City of Death design notes with pics and blurbs on the new buildings, various troops involved (Flayed Ones, Raven Scouts, Ork Kommando).

Battle Report: Cities of Death Orks vs IG: 1500 pts

LOTR Battle Report: Wizards vs Wargs and Warg Riders

-Gandalf, Radagast and Saruman

Teaser article on Ork Kommandos and the Fall of Medusa

Article on Regiments of Renown. Goes into some of the units, provides stats.

An article on Tomb Kings, mostly pictures

A nice painting and conversion article on SM Scout Snipers

‘Eavy Metal article on painting LOTR banners. This is not too impressive, especially for an ‘Eavy Metal article.

Pictures from the Atlanta 2006 Golden Demon

LOTR articles on tactics for Forces of Dol Guldur and Elven Forces of Mirkwood

Article on making scenery for Dol Guldur, although this could be done for any game system. It’s well nice and the terrain looks very nice.

Painting article on alien alloys, unique textures (Nid chitin), blades, ceramic armor, and light source painting.

WFB Article on Battlefield Objectives, with a chart describing different objectives. There are cards available on the GW web site for this too.

The Art of Warhammer: article on Chariots and tactics, followed by a Chaos chariot showcase with some nicely converted chariots.

Next month will be about Medusa V

-Jmz

Gruß CF

[Chosen One]

Quelle: http://eldarcraftworld.blogspot.com/2006/04/eldar-rumor-roundup.html

Lots of Eldar rumors out there. Some credible. Some not. I'm going to list the rumors I'm aware of which I consider to be credible. For the sake of not having to type all day, I'm hoping you'll be willing to trust my judgment and (for the moment, anyhow), assume these have a grain of possible truth in them. I didn't sum up every rumor I've read... just the credible ones.

Having said that, bear in mind that everything in this post is a rumor.

The codex (which is due in November) is not likely to bring more Craftworlds to the table, but it's confirmed that we won't lose any, either. No Craftworld-specific rumors are making the rounds except that Alaitoc will likely lose their disruption rolls.

Word has it that the Eldar psychic powers will get a major re-working. I've been hearing that Mind War and Eldritch Storm will disappear, but Doom (a 2nd ed power) may make a return. The emphasis will be on modifiers and buffs rather than psychic attacks (especially for the Farseer).

The Avatar will get a new model and be made into a Special Character, complete with new rules. The model is supposedly twice the height of the current one, but sources say that it's being redone because studios aren't happy with the sculpt.

Autarch. Though rumors persist it'll be metal (which I doubt), this Uber-Exarch is supposedly going to be customizable to the nines. Sources say "He can be anything you want".

New Farseer model, though no-one can say more about it than that. Some rumors that he'll be reduced to T3.

No-one can really say if the Phoenix Lords are going to be removed from the line and just remain in the fluff. Lots of strong arguments in both directions.

There will also be new Warlocks, I'm hearing, but no info on that, either.

One of the stranger bits of news/rumor going around is that there WILL be a Bonesinger model made... just no rules. It'll be a Special Edition model. Not sure what the deal there is.

Rumors persist of plastic Wraithguard. Can't tell yet if this is going to be legit or what.

Some Aspect Warriors will be redone: Fire Dragons, Striking Scorpions, Howling Banshees, Dark Reapers (with targeting vanes returning)... all in metal. No word on dramatic rules changes for them, however. Shining Spears will also be redone (with new rules), but metal/plastic ratio is undetermined. No-one can seem to get any traction on whether Warp Spiders or Swooping Hawks will be redone or not. Right now the consensus seems to be "no" due to time constraints... though some rumors have started to surface that so much stink is being made about the Warp Spiders not being redone that they may fast-track some new models through.

Dire Avengers are a special case. They're being completely remade and the rules are getting a huge boost. For one, they will be able to shoot 18", and if they do something called "Shuriken Storm", they can fire 3 times in a turn (rather than 2) and give up the chance to fire in the following turn (though they can still assault). This has all been corroborated by so many sources that I'd be surprised if it didn't happen. The models are also getting a complete re-do. It seems that GW would like to see more people using Dire Avengers, as they are identified in the fluff as the most common Aspect of all.

Speaking of Aspects and rumors: When an Exarch takes a power, it now affects the entire squad. Exarch powers will be retooled somewhat to make this more practical (specifically, the Dire Avenger power "Defend" will allow enemies to hit on a 5+ in CC instead of a 6+), but it seems like this is a done deal.

Guardians will get some changes, but probably just in the form of new gubbinz and so on. Jes Goodwin (who is doing most of the Eldar stuff) says the current gubbinz aren't "Eldary enough". Not-quite-as-for-sure rumors say that the basic Guardian box will be reduced to 12 Guardians, but will include the Anti-Grav Support Platform (redone in plastic, which most of you have already seen). Not so sure about that part. No change is apparently going to be made to their 12" range, though playtesting has seen them with a 4+ save (no guarantee that'll be in the final rules, though).

Rangers are already redone in metal. Most of you have seen that. No firm word on changes in rules for them, but the new models no longer carry Lasweapons, so I imagine that (aside from Swooping Hawks), that'll be the last we see of the 2nd ed Eldar Lasweapon trend.

Jetbikes will not be redone (apparently time constraints make it impossible), but the torsos will be. Interesting new thing that's come up recently: There will be Farseer and Warlock torsos in plastic included with the bike.

War Walkers are already redone (though the masses have not seen the new models yet). There will apparently be some sort of canopy over the rider that wasn't before (sources are conflicted on whether it's the standard Eldar canopy or some sort of "force field"). No confirmations of rule changes for the War Walker, but rumors suggest two things might happen: 1. Instead of two weapons, it'll be one twin-linked weapon, 2. They'll get the Scouting Universal Rule.

The Wraithlord hasn't been the subject of much talk where confirmed rules changes are going to happen, but lots of talk where the sculpt is. Not only will he be in plastic and made by Jes Goodwin, but he'll look like a miniature Revenant Titan (with the blank face and "collar" in the style of the Wraithguard). He'll also have an optional sword and shield. Lighter weapons (flamers and Shuriken Catapults) will be up on the shoulders instead of the wrists. The joints will all be ball-joint sockets, so that's good for posability. The sword and shield suggest better CC rules for the Wraithlord, but no confirmations of that yet. This has been corroborated from at least three independent sources... so I'm confident that it's true. Lonnnng ago (like over a year) I heard that the Wraithlord would stay the same, stat-wise, but be increased in points cost. I haven't heard anything since then, though.

I've now heard a few times that playtesting saw Dark Reaper Exarchs with an ability to upgrade the squad so they can use indirect fire (one shot per squad). As this was part of the playtesting, there's no guarantee it'll end up in the rules.

The Shuriken Cannon will not get the Rending ability.

Other than that, I can't think of anything else!

So, eine kleine Zusammenfassung, fand ich relativ praktisch...

Gruß CF

[Chosen One]

So, es hat sich viel getan und man merkt, dass der Codex nicht mehr allzu lange auf sich warten lässt, vor allem weil auch erste Bilchen aufgetaucht sind und ich fühle mich schon ganz schön hibbelig...

Quelle: 40kOnline

I don't have any scans but I can say the war walkers are much more dynamic and poseable they have a clear cockpit reminiscent of the falcon or viper and the model appeared to be open toped still even with the canopy.

The fire dragon looks mostly the same but is holding one of the more standard looking fusion guns not the current phallic looking ones.

Dire avengers look nice they seem to have some sort of shoulder mounted camera or something and the Exarch has a sword and some sort of wrist mounted thing not a standard pistol.

The only ones I don't care for are the new banshees. They look more realistic I guess they have a shorter more domed helmet and less crazy hair but I personally like the last ones better these new ones seem plain by comparison.

Quelle: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35223&page=15

Please forgive me if these have been posted- Avatar model is huge. points equals bloodthirster plus a sniper drone team his wailing doom is a ap3 flamer and plasma meltas are half as effective against him. wraithlords are 1 per 750pts? Before any more are posted i have a rant. Is there a rumour restriction going on? Is this site being sensored? Or are the rumours being posted but so much other rubbish is being posted in the rumour forum that i cant be bothered to read it? Cmon warseer get it together.

These may be old -

1.supplement to follow cityfight may be 40k apocolypse epic 40k i think 6 major 40k kits 1 is baneblade 1 is stompa what are the other 4?

2.3rd 40k supplement air combat. rumoured plastic TH gunship when moulding is possible.

3. warhammer supplement ships ahoy rumoured

4. no more ctms for eldar yay

5. seer council max is 5? must all have psychic or witch weapons (may not applyto craftworlds) rumoured.

6. spacehulk may return. this was a maybe from the horses mouth. no new specialist games except maybe spacehulk redo.

once again apologies if these are old. there may be a chance for eldar at gamesday. rumour.

Quelle: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35223&page=16

My copy of WD 317 arrived today (I'm in the US) and it does indeed say that the Eldar Codex is due out in October.

It also has pictures of some of the new Eldar, specifically Howling Banshees, Firedragons, Dire Avengers and the new War Walker.

The new Warwalker looks very cool and it has what looks like an upside-down Vyper canopy in front of the crewman.

The Banshees and Firedragons look similar to the existing models, but better detailed and proportioned.

The new Dire Avengers according to the text accompanying the picture come in a box of 10, including the stuff you need to make an Exarch. They look extremely cool, fully posable, and as noted the Shuricats have sighting devices on them. The assembled Exarch has a sword in his right hand and a gauntlet of some kind with what looks like a shuriken catapult mounted on it. He also has a banner on his back similar to a samurai sashimono.

They also showed pictures of the Dire Avenger sprue, and the Exarch apparently has a couple of weapon options, included a spear or halberd sort of thing.

Quelle: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35223&page=20

This is a brand new sprue unique and just for the Dire Avengers, the legs are single piece

So, dann habe ich noch Bilder der Feuerdrachen, Banshees, Kampfläufer und Asuryans Jäger gefunden, sind alle von Warseer...

[Chosen One]

Die Kampfläufer wollte er irgendwie nicht, also nochmal...

Die Drachen haben sich ja nicht groß geändert, die Kampfläufer sind klasse wie ich finde, die DAs scheinen ebenfalls schick zu sein, auch wenn die Qualität der Bilder dort nicht ganz so toll ist. Bei den Banshees weiß ich noch nicht, was ich davon halten soll, aber ich glaube ich finde sie ganz nett, vor allem weil sie besser proportioniert sind, allerdings sind abgesehen von den Propotionen die alten glaube ich einen Tick besser...

Gruß CF

[Moriquendi]

Cool! Endlich Bilder!

- Mir gefallen die Banshees ganz gut (sehen ein bischen wie die vorletzten aus), aber nicht so gut, daß ich mich genötig fühle meine Aktuellen durch sie zu ersetzen

- Die Feuerdrachen sehen ebenfalls ein wenig wie die vorletzten aus und gefallen mir nicht so gut... da finde ich die (noch) aktuellen besser.

- Die DA sind (was man sieht) ziemlich cool. Interessant finde ich auch den Gußrahmen, z.B. die zweihändige Exarchenwaffe.

- Die Kampfläufer sind ja echt der Hammer! Scheinbar stimmt das Gerücht, daß sie eine Synchro-Waffe statt der zwei verschiedenen Schweren Waffen aber nicht, denn dann wäre der linke ja falsch zusammen gebaut...

[R3n3]

Die Kampfläufer sind echt cool. Jetzt kann ich endlich wieder mal andere Fahrzeuge als Buggys für meine Orks benutzen Piranhas der Tau sind in Arbeit *g*

[basic]

Mich erinnern die Kampfläufer irgendwie total an die Mecs aus den Mech-Warrior-Teilen. Aber verstehe ich das richtig? Es sollen für 40k 6 Großbausätze rauskommen wovon 2 der Baneblade und der Stompa und 1 möglicherweise der Thunderhawk sein soll? Bitte um Aufklärung...

[Tuladrias]

Nett, wirklich.

Die FD sehen aber wirklich sehr aus wie die aus der 2. Edi.. Naja, die "neuen" mir ihrem "Vasen"-Flammer waren auch nicht so der Hit. Plastik???

Die Avenger sehen aber genau aus wie die alten; nur, daß der Kopf und das Tüchlein nicht mehr aus Zinn sind, was bedeutet, daß sie zur Abwechslung auch mal ohne den Einsatz einer halben Flasche Kleber halten könnten ...

Die Warwalker sehen klasse aus. Erinnern mich aber weniger an BT, sondern an Läufer aus irgendeinem Computerspiel ... C&C? Earth? Ich komme in Moment nicht drauf.

Gesyncte Waffen wären aber echt Schrott!!!! Das war ja bis jetzt der fiese Trick der KL, daß sie 2 SC/LL/ haben durften! Da habe ich lieber 6/2 Schüsse als diesen sync-Quatsch. Aber ich tippe mal, daß es wie bei den TAU-Suits laufen wird: 2 gleiche Waffen= sync; unterschiedliche WAffen= unsync.

[Cergorach]

Naja, mit Sync Waffen sind die Läufer dafür sicher auch massiv billiger. Aussehen tun sie jedenfalls gut... im Gegensatz zu den Aspekten, welche imho hässlich sind und eher als Verschlimmbesserung durchgehen.

[Olzur]

Also mir gefällt das Cockpit der Kampfläufer überhaupt nicht. Sieht ja aus als hätte sich der Pilot ne abgestürzte Viper geschnappt und n bischen rumgeschweißt...

Für mich sieht das irgendwie drangeklatsch aus...

Olzur

[Chosen One]

Nett, wirklich.

Die FD sehen aber wirklich sehr aus wie die aus der 2. Edi.. Naja, die "neuen" mir ihrem "Vasen"-Flammer waren auch nicht so der Hit. Plastik???

Die Feuerdrachen und Banshees sind definitiv aus Metall, steht auch dran...

Allerdings finde ich sie persönlich alle gelungen, schlimmer als die aktuellen finde ich die Feuerdrachen z.B. nicht und die Banshees sind auch definitiv nicht schlecht...

Lediglich die Bemalung der Drachen ist ziemlich mies...

Gruß CF

[tornado64]

Sind die Ranger eigentlich auch aus Metall?

Plastik-Ranger fände ich super, da man sie dann individueller gestalten kann.

MfG tornado64

[Moriquendi]

Soweit ich weiß sind die Ranger aus Zinn.

Die Feuerdrachen sehen in meinen Augen sehr kahl aus. Mir gefallen die Aktuellen durch ihre Details wie Drachenschuppen etc. schon besser.

[Fallen]

Also bei den schönen Modell gedenke ich doch langsam echt mir Eldar dann doch mal genauer anzuschauen und vlt. anzufangen.

[Chosen One]

Quelle: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35630

If im just reposting deleate this or move this.

-Starcannon is staying the same minus it loseing 1 shot

-Avatar is going to be on par with the blodthruster and get a big points bump

-shurken cata is not getting changed accept for dire avengers where its going to be 18 inches

-There will be NO changes to the falcon

-They are droping all special chars cept for eldread but they are adding the prince from inyden who saved the craftworld (forget his name)

-The harlquins will be in this dex (gav said so himself)

-The craftworld codex is going to be void and they are adding a few codex spefic rules in, like the rangers lose the chart but can upgrade all its rangers to pathfinders for x amount of points. (the wd editor told me this, he said he looked at the codex which was still in pdf format)

So there is what i got out of gav, I wish I coulda gotten more but my friend whos a gw employee didnt think to get as much outta gav as he could when they went to the bar and he got blitzed wit him the night before lol

Es gibt noch neue Bilder, aber die sind nicht so toll, dass ich sie hier posten werde, wiederum eine umbemalte Banshee und ein umbemalter Feuerdrache ebenso wie die bekannten Jäger...

Gruß CF

[tornado64]

Überlege ja, ob ich Alaitoc spielen soll, da ich auch die neuen Ranger genial finde, aber bei 18 Modellen bei 1500 Punkiten...davon sind dann immer so drei gleiche oder so dabei:notok:

MfG tornado64

[Runenfritze]

Tja, wie es hier schon (von mir) gesagt wurde: Die Sachen, die durch die neue Edition massiv verschlechtert wurden, werden nicht nur nicht angepasst, sondern sogar noch verschlechtert. Ich werde mir immer sicherer, dass meine paar tausend Punkte Eldar nie mehr zum Einsatz kommen werden.

Was soll's. Dann spiele ich eben Space Marines, Chaos und Tau. GW wäre es ja sowieso am liebsten, wenn es nur diese drei Armeen gäbe. Anders kann man sich diesen Blödsinn wirklich nicht erklären. Ich bin darüber schon verdammt enttäuscht. Aber was soll man machen? Feedback interessiert GW nicht im Geringsten, die Zeit kann man sich also auch gleich sparen.

Ich hätte ja gerne mal wieder mit meiner Lieblingsarmee gespielt, aber so lange sie auf die Weise unten gehalten werden macht das wenig Sinn. Ich habe ja nichts dagegen, mal zu verlieren, aber mit Eldar bleibt einem leider nur die Möglichkeit, den Gegner komplett ohne eigene Verluste bis zur dritten Runde wegzuputzen oder selbst dermaßen unterzugehen. Tut man ersteres, spielt niemand mehr gegen einen. Und von vornherein zu wissen, dass ich mit dieser Armee sowieso verlieren werde ist auch nicht wesentlich reizvoller.

Danke GW! Ihr seid meine Helden...