Baneblade, Apocalypse u.a.

[Egalisator]

Ja: http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/showthread.php?t=92570

[wemse]

Ein kleiner Punkt ist jedoch, der Baneblade kostet 95€ (Preisband Q+...) und besteht aus 7 Gussrahmen mit ca. 250 Teilen und verfügt über eine Vielzahl von Optionen.

Weitere Preise für einige der neuen Produkte:

Gefechtskompanie - 400,-€

Vindicatoren (3 Modelle) - 95,-€

Vindicator (1 Modell) - 35,-€

Meister des Ordens (4 Modelle) - 30,-€

Veteranen (5 Modelle)- 25,-€

Panzerkompanie (10 Modelle) - 225,-€

Baneblade - 95,-€

Basilisken (3 Modelle) - 80,-€

Tau Panzerteam (3 Modelle) - 80,-€

Anzugteam (12 Modelle) - 120,-€

Eldar Windreiter (12 Modelle) - 120,-€

Monolithen Phalanx (2 Modelle) - 80,-€

Warpfeld Granate - 9,-€

Schablonenset - 20,-€

Würfelbox - 11,50€

Spieleredition (Rucksack, Schablonen, Würfel und Buch) - 95,-€

Urbane Strasse (3 Meter lang) - 17,50€

Kraterset (10 Stück) - 15,-€

Infos stammen von GW-Fanworld

[Abercr0mbie]

Eigentlich dachte ich der Baneblade würde 80-90€ kosten, aber nun gut immer noch billiger als das FW Original, auch wenns nicht so schön ist wie das.

Und bei den restlichen Sachen kann man auch schön sparen, wenn man die Sachen braucht.

Nur komisch find ich den Preis der Vindicatoren, ich glaub nicht das 3 Stück 95€ kosten.

Denn jeder einzelne Vindi ist genauso teuer wie ein Basilisk und da kostet die 3er Box auch nur 80€.

[Diabolos]

Aber drei einzelne kosten 105€.

Eine Ersparniss von 10€ erscheint mir durchaus glaubwürdig.

Vielleicht geht GW ja davon aus, das der Markt mit Basilisken besser ausgestatet ist, als mit Vindicatoren, also das mehr von denen benötigt werden.

Aber die Preispolitik bei denen muss man ja nicht verstehen.

[wemse]

..jup.

Und man schaue sich den Preis für die Panzerkompanie an.

Ein LR kostet 35€ und du bekommst dann das 10er Set für 225€!

Das sind 125€ weniger als beim Einzelkauf.

Oder anders gesagt: Kaufe 7 LR und du bekommst 3 geschenkt.

[segara]

Bei der 10er-Packung werden sich bestimmt ein paar Spieler zusammenreden und die Box dann gemeinsam kaufen ... wer, außer einem Panzerkompaniespieler, braucht denn sonst 10 Leman Russ?

Generell scheint GW zu versuchen, Fahrzeuge an die Leute zu bringen. Auch spieltechnisch ist das erkennbar, da die Panzerabwehrwaffen teurer werden. Na ja ... kommt mir schon ziemlich verzweifelt vor.

[Khorne=Khaine]

Na ja ... kommt mir schon ziemlich verzweifelt vor.

GW ist verzweifelt und braucht viel Umsatz im III. & IV. Quartal. Ansonsten haben die mittelgroße Probleme.

Aber diese 3er Boxen sind schon nett.

Ein paar Neuigkeiten:

And i have to say, the game is very, very cool. They had a prerelease copy of the book at my store today and were running demo games. While everyone else was playing, i had the book to myself and wen through it cover to cover. I do not remember everything, but i got a lot of it stored away in my head, not i just need to drudge it back out....

Please forgive any spelling or grammar errors, i am tired as hell and hung over, too lazy to edit this all that thouroughly at the moment. Also, some of the finer details may not be 100% accurate as this is off memory, but the majority of what i write should be just about verbatum.

Bur here goes:

Rules:

First off, the basic game is unchanged. You use the exact same rules for Apoc as you do normal 40K. There are only a few, small changes to streamline the game. But in terms of combat, shooting, etc. nothing has changed. In my opinion, that is a good thing as it keeps things running smoothly and the way we are used to playing.

Set up is handled thusly: both sides agree to meet in advance with x amount of points on each side. All players should have there stuff ready to go ahead of time, with army lists etc. prepared. Also, WYSIWYG is mandatory in order to keep track of who has what.

Points only need to be roughly equal. For every full 250 points difference, the side with less points gets a stratagem. Also, each army gets a stratagm for each player on their side, so two on two with one side fielding 500 less points would result in two stratagems for the bigger army, and 4 for the smaller. A list of stratagems are in the back of the book, and there are a ton of them, ranging from orbital bombardment (very nasty) to strategic redployment (allowing a section of your ofrce to move anywhere on the board), base strucutres that give boosts to your troops, ways to keep units fighting, scoring, shoot or assault better for a turn (like one unit hitting on 2+), deffensive strutures

Once the board is set up (they recomend a 8" x 6" board for anything above 3K) you roll a scatter die in the middle of the table and draw a line from the arrow to a corner of the board, then from that board edge, draw a straight line to the furthest board edge. Therefore, you usually end up with a diagnol deployment zone, but one side can be bigger than the other by quite a bit, or it could end up being prefectly diveded in half. It makes for a funky but fun and different deployment zone every game.

From that line, you extend a 6 inch no mans zone in both directions, therefore giving you a 12" zone along the dividing line where no one can deploy without a special stratagem or rule.

After this, each player puts down three objectives, one in their deployment zone, one in no man's land, and one in the opponants zone. they follow the usual rules, 12" away from a board edge and another marker.

Another thing i like and that is pretty fun, is that once both players have determines sides by dicing, each team writes down a number from one to thirty as a wager for how many minutes they are willing to take for set up, and then places it face down on the table. Once both players have done so, they are turned face up and whoever wagered the lower number deploys second but only has x amount of minutes to do so, but also gets to go first. It makes for a good laugh and further encourages the social and fun aspect of the game. WHen you only have 5 minutes to deploy 10K points you dont always make the best tactical desicions, but you do get first turn. One of the stratagems you can buy is forcing your opponants to not speak to one another or comminicate in any way during their deployment which is very funny since they can not coordinate their game plan.

Once both sides have set up, the game begines and goes until a designated time, at which point the game is over once both players have had an equal amount of turns to play. Whoever has the most objectives wins, no VP's to tally up. Scoring units within 12" of the objective take it. There are stratgems which keep a unit scoring to the last man, tanks scoring even if immobilized, etc. They are very cool additions to the game and some of them are pretty off the wall like anti plant bombs (2nd ed anyone?) that clear a section of vegetation off the board, blind bombs that for a line that no one can draw LOS through, etc. They remind me a lot of some of the stuff from the old 2nd ed box with the strategy cards.

Also, the books gives rules for super heavies, gargantuan creatures and flyers as well as the stats for a ton of them in the book.

Gargantuan creatures are nasty, they can move 12" fire everything at different targets and are strength D in HtH. however, nothing stays locked in combat with them, anyone can just run away with no penalty. They roll three dice for difficult terrain and can reroll the results. They are insnae on the stat line too, like tough 8 with 10 wounds, etc. No mass points anymore, just wounds. They also ignore all pyschic attacks that do not directly cause damage.

Superheavy vehicles move 6" and fire everything at different targets it they wish. They can go through terrain and dont get immobilzed by it. Also, a new weapon class is in the book, "main weapon" which means that the weapon can ignore a stunned or weapon destroyed result on the dmage table on a 4+. The destruction table is horrendous! Once all structure points are gone, you roll on the dmage table, a glance gets -2 to the result, a pen has no modifier, and a D weapon gets +1. The table is, stunned, weapon destroyed, damage to engines (i cant rememner the exact term, but it cuts your movement in half, a second result is weapon destroyed), destroyed, explodes (2D6" [Wink] , and appocolyptic explosion (6D6" str 9 AP2!) In our game, a Baneblade blew up like this and kill about 70 or so models, something insane. The brass scorpion gets +2 to that table, so it is pretty much a sure bet to blow up spectacularly. Also, there are three types of fields, power, void and holo. Power fields are Orky, and are armor 12 and go down to a glancing or pen hit. they cant come back. Void shields are imperial/chaos, and are the same as power fields but can come back online on a 5+ roll. Neither filed works within 12". The holo field is a 4+ invul for eldar super heavies.

Flyers are amazing! They start in reserve, and comeon anywhere on the board. Each turn they can leave the board back into reserve, or move anywhere on the table as long as it was more than 36" from where they started. They always count as shooting at side armor (to represent the top armor of a vehicle) and ignore all terrrain for the purposes of shooting unless it is area terrain and the target is in it. That means they can hit anything on the board in range. Also, they can drop the four leaf clover template as a bomb atack, or the giant flamer template as a napalm style bomb, so long as they are equiped to do so (most of them are). They can always move if they get a crew stunned result, but all immobilized results destroy them (and the model is just gone, it doenst crash on the table or anything). All ground units need a 6 to hit them, they can only be glanced and range is reduced by 12". AA guns, ignore the 6 to hit and the range reduction, and hit on normal BS instead. If the flyer can carry troops, and those troops are jumptroops, they may jump out of the tranport during any portion of its movement phase and deeptrike onto the table, very cool! (although in reality it is not different from normal deepstriking jump pack troops, i jus tlike the visual)

Also, if a vehicle is VTOL capable it can choose to operate as a fast skimmer instead of a flyer. In this mode, it counts as a scoring unit (normal flyers do not) but now is treated just as if it were a skimmer for targeting and shooting and movement. In this mode, non jump troop units may hop out, and in some cases, transported vehicles may get out and drive off!

Reserves are handled SO much better. Half come on on turn two, half on turn three, of your choice. I wish normal 40K went this way. Certain stratagems allow you to place units in reserve intentinally and then have them come on on any board edge.

Layout and Approach

The game very strongly emphasizes fun, not competetive play. The rules are written in the same way you would talk to a buddy, full of jokes and tips. The tell you flat out to make up any house rules you want if it suits you, such as allowing only one of a named special character, etc.

Threre are literally no force org charts. you can put ANYTHING you want down, although they do include a chart in the back of the book for likely allies, stating that any alliances that would normally run counter to the fluff need to be justified with some sort of backstory, but really that is just to appease the fluff monkey's out there, the ruels allow anything. There are a ton of sample armies with some crazy stuff, like a bug army with 6 hive tyrants and hundred of little bugs. Another was a Sister army with marines and a squad of harlies.

There are a ton of pictures in the book too, and some really cool, off the wall armies in there, plus some crazy boards set up that have bridges conecting seperate sections, etc. Very cool visually. I would honestly say the book is worth it for the art and inspiring pictures alone. There are a ton of new, fun armies in thee to check out.

After the rules section (which is very brief) they go into ideas for game play and then into the background for each army. There is a some cool and entertaining fluff for EACH army in the book.

The data sheet section is extensive, some armies get the short end of the stick unfortunately, like nothing for deamonhunters or sisters, which is a bummer, and only one entry for some armies like dark eldar. They did say, however, that they would be constantly coming up with new ones for all armies avialable for free on line.

Datasheets

This was the fun part. A datasheet contains a detachment of troops that use special rules. It can be as simple as a superheavy, a named superheavy, or a collection of units that get a special bonus such as the Ork dread mob, etc. Most of us are familiar with these by now, so i will go over them fairly briefly to give a taste of what they do, or the more exciting ones.

Baneblade:

tough armor (cant go into too many stats, dont want to get anyone in trouble) but just like a demolisher with better rear armor, the main cannon is strength D, 10" blast, and if the whole is over terrain, the terrain is blown apart too! 3 structure points, 500 point cost, very bad bottom machine. 100 points gives you the side sponsons ith lascannons and heavy bolters, or you can upgrade a point of armor on the sides. Far more powerful than the forgeworld vehicle.

Yarrick's baneblade gives rerollable ld 10 to all IG in 12" and makes Orks run away or something similar.

The Hellhammer fires the big boom stick, but at a shorter range and ignore cover saves.

The giant sentinal squad is cool and can redploy once per game anywhere on board.

Bassie companies can fire a ranging shot first and then all other bassies may choose to atuomatically hit that point wihout scattering.

tank comapny can ignore skaen results if withing 12" of command tank, and still count as scoring even if immobilized.

All imperial aircraft are in, and the hellstrike missles are now unlimited range! The valkyrie and vulture will be very very useful to IG now, i know ill be getting some to make air cav for my boys.

the Ogryn datasheet lets them scout move and they had a really funny name for one of the example squads: "the emperor's loyal lads" i dont know why i thought that was so funny, but hey, im pretty out of it right now.

The orc baneblade is flipping awesome! It is a fast (yes fast) vehicle, open topped with one point worse front armor, but it carries 30 orcs! The thing is a scratch builder/convertor's dream, and i imagine we will see some really cool conversions with this one. It lacks some guns the normal bainblade has, but still packs a wallop.

The stompa in the new WHite Dwarf is the real stompa and seeing more pics, i like it now. the yellow paint job in the dwarf just sort of sucks. The stompa will be released too, along with codex orks, it is not a pipe ream. Also, the thing is so cool! it has just plain crazy guns that not only wreck shop, but are oh so orky. The "psycho dakka blasta" is a gun the fires once per game, but it is str 7 Ap3. It is a giant gattling shoota that is heavy 2d6. you fire it at a squad, then pick the next nearest squad and keep hopping squad to squad untill you roll doubles! the thing put out 43 shots in a game we played! after that it is out of ammo, but the stompa has a ton of other guns too, all that kick bottom. There are two versions of it, the second being the big mek version (the stomp with no horns in the white dwarf) that is the same basic vehicle but has a lifta dropps instead! yes! if you remember that gun from 2nd ed, it is a blast. you use it to pick up enemy tanks and then smash their own units with it, just a very fun unit.

the gargantuan squigoth is in, crazy amount of wounds and toughness and carries a ton of big guns and 20 orcs, treated as open topped for assault and embarking.

*there are pictures of the new Orc bikesin the book too, and they look awseome! Like little choppers, and every third or so bike has a unique body. it looks like you can build lots of different bikes with modular parts, so each one is fairly unique. The Ork warboss on bike is mean looking, with a sleeker bike and a big power claw. Compared ot the old bikes, they are about 100 times an imporvement. The new truk is just fantastic too, it looks like a big half trak but orkified, and a gorgeous model. the buggies are vastly improved too. i would say that they are some of the coolest looking models i have seen in a while, and are very Orky.

The Kult of speed can redploy anywhere on board

the dread mob gets a kustom forcefield to any kan or dread within 12" of the command dread

The bugs get deepstriking carnies!! 5 of them can deepstrike nd they get a 5+ cover save the turn they deepstrike.

endles sqrm is 120+ gaunts of any flavor that get wihtout number plus if the enemy rolls a certain amount of 6's to hit, they ran out of ammo and cant shoot for a turn.

they also have the giant barbed hirodule and the giant spider looking bug (cant remember name, too lazyt o check forgworld right now) and he is tough 9 10 wounds with two heavy 8 str 10 ap 3 guns!! ouchers.

they also had a datasheet for 9+ ravenors that all got to deepstrike off of the lead ravenor without deviating if i remember correctly.

Tau had the battlesuit datasheet (9 suits and 3 stealths) that let them deepstrike witout deviating if withing LOS of the stealth suits.

the amorred interdiciton force got three free markerlight hits per tunr, and consisted of i believe two hammerheads and a skyray.

they also had a three krootox datasheet, cant remeber what they did though.

dark eldar got the three ravager shot that lets them ignore fields.

Eldar got a three falcon formation that lets them all charge up for a tunr and their pulse lasers counts a lance weapons, or the damned things can take off into flight and reappear anywhere onthe board from reseves! damn falcons!

the aspect warrior assault (somethng like that) data sheet was three squads of wave serpaent that if they stayed in formation, they could use their field to make all incoming shots strength 7 max, or they could fire off the field and tank shock units with it and cause a pin check.

they have a windrider host that consists of a lot of bikes and vypers and can redploy anywhere on board.

the revenant titan is a beast, it is only armor 12 with holo fields, but it fires 4 str D pie plates a turn! In our game it used a stratagem to come on the chaos board edge right behind a chaos warhound titan and walked inside of the warhounds void shileds, then lit it up. THen it charged it in HTH, destroying it. very cool moment in the game. also, the revenant can move 24" if i remember correctly, it is very fast.

Necrons got the pylon, which is a uber powerful one shot weapon or a multi shot weapon like the monolith.

three monoliths form a tirangle and give +1 to WBB rolls to any unit in thta triangle, and stop all pyshich attacks form entering within. Lash of submission what?

Chaos suprisngly only got two datasheets if i remember correctly, one of which is the tie of spawn, turning 10 guys into 10 spawn.

the other was the three vindicator formation where they can combine there shots to make a str D 10" pieplate that rmoves terrain.

They also got hte line breaker data sheet i believe, which is the same for space marines: three landraiders in formation that ignore skaken or stunned.

Marines got the masters of the chapter, each guy has a really cool ability. One is the oribital bombardment, one is strategic redployment, ambush (lets you hit any unit that comes on from reserve with a bunch of hits, cant remember the spcifics) and infiltrate, i believe.

the battle company stratagem gives you three extra stratagems, although my memory is failing me as to what they were at themoment, ill post it later if i can remember.

the thunderhawk is awesome 3 structure points, can carry 20 marines, 6 bomb or missle racks, either a big template cannon or a str D laser for its main gun and multiple las cannons and heavy bolters.

the whirlwind unit has unlimited range to aything in 36" of the spotter land speeder.

Lastly, the Warlord titan is in, and it is insane! 2500 points, 9 struture points and 6 void shilds, and just insane weapons! armor 14, the thing is insane, and is in the works from forgeworld. i cant wait to see the model.

There were a few more i cant rememer off hand.

I am sure i am forgetting stuff, but i will psot more as it comes to me. On the whole, I have to sy the game is just plain fun. I really like it personally, and think it will be nothing but a good thing for the community.

[ostling]

tag, hätte da mal eine paa Fragen:

Gibt es schon Bilder von dem oben erwähnten Ork-Baneblade ?

Oder von einem bemalten Terminus Land Raider ?

Weiß jemand ob die Ordensmeister NUR in einer Box erhältlich oder auch einzeln ?

MfG Osling

[Gast Leman Russ]

Von dem Land Raider gibts es schon ein paar Bilder im Schema der Ultramarines und beim Ork-Baneblade kann man den sich denk ich einfach mit dem normalen Modell und Ork-Fahrzeugteilen selber bauen können.

[ostling]

@ Leman Russ danek für die Info hättest du auch einen Link?

aja weiß jemand schon genaueres zum Brass Skorpion ob das jetz als modell kommt oder ob man sich das selber bauen muss ??

MfG Ostling

[Bloodknight]

Der Brass Scorpion besteht aus zwei Geißeln.

Zu der großen Box Leman Russ: die braucht in der Menge nicht mal ein PK-Spieler. Ich hab 14 Panzer bei meinen Imps, davon sind 5 Leman Russ Varianten und das sind schon über 3000 Punkte...die Box kann eigentlich nur dazu gedacht sein, dass sich mehrere Leute zusammen eine kaufen.

[Gast Leman Russ]

http://www.sphaerentor.com/wh40k/index.php?file=archiv.php&id=1939

Ich denke mal die sind ganz ok.

[ostling]

@ Leman Russ: danke sind recht ok

@ BloodKnight: is das jetz fix das das Skorpion jetz nicht asl eigenes modell kommt ? Hab auch schon gehört das es als eignenes modell kommt.

MfG Ostling

[basic]

Hier ist ein Bild vom angeblich neuen Stompa. Laut einigen wiedersprüchlichen Angaben soll er April 2008 rauskommen und im Zuge des Orkcodex rauskommen:

[Bloodknight]

@Ostling: keine Ahnung. Das Teil auf dem Datasheet besteht auf jeden Fall aus zwei Geißeln. Der Skorpion im 40K-Regelbuch hinten besteht aus zwei Geißeln und mindestens einem Schattenbarkenbausatz. Ich denke nicht, dass es dafür eine extra Box gibt, das lohnt sich eigentlich nicht.

[Gast Leman Russ]

Ich denke mal in Zukunft wird es entweder von GW selbst oder von Forgeworld einen Scorpion als eigenen Bausatz geben. Die wollen ja schließlich Geld verdienen und die Sachen die es als Einheit im Spiel existieren auch als Modell verkaufen.

Ich glaube das Stompa-Bild ist ziemlich alst und sogar aus dem WD oder so, zumindest sieht der nicht so professionell aus, da kann ich selbst ja einen orkigeren bauen

[ostling]

@Bloodknight: der aus dem Regelbuch ist mir durchaus bekannt, auch das Modell vom data sheet, von dem ich eig. vermutet hatte das es das Modell von GW darstellt.

@ Stompas: meinen Informationen nach, die auf warseer beruhen, ist das einfach ein Umbau. Auf dem Bild sind ursprünglich 2 Stompas zu sehen die kaum Gleichmäßigkeiten besitzen so ist anzunehmen das beide Umbauten sind.

Allerdings gibt es auch Gerüchte das einer davon der Prototyp des Stompas ist der nächsten April erscheinen soll. Auch soll das Erscheinen auch mit den Verkaufszahlen vom Baneblade zusammenhängen. Was davon stimmt wird erst die Zeit zeigen.

MfG Ostling

[Gast Leman Russ]

Ich denke mal wenn der neue Ork-Codex erscheint wird es einiges an neuen Fahrzeugen und so geben und vielleicht plant GW dann ja auch weiter. Wie immer wird bei so einem Release Forgeworld einige coole Modelle wieder rausbringen (ich fänd ja die Bommerz aus Aeronautica cool^^) und da ist bestimmt auch was richtig großes dabei:D

[Abercr0mbie]

Releasing 10/8:

Space Marine Supression Force: 2xWhirlwind, 1xLandspeeder. Retailing for $90, content is $120, savings is $30.

Releasing 10/15:

Necron Phalanx: 2xMonoliths. Retailing for $90, content is $110, savings is $20.

Emperor's Fist Tank Company: 10xLeman Russ MBTs; Retailing for $275, value is $400, savings $125.

Land Raider Terminus Pattern, retailing @ $50.

Space Marine Battle Company: 100xSpace Marines, 8xRhino, 1xRazorback. Retailing @ $450, value of $625, savings of $175

Releasing 10/22:

IG Leman Russ Squad: 3xLeman Russ; retailing @ $90, valued @ 120, savings of $30.

Eldar Windrider Host: 1xAutarch Jetbike, 9xJetbikes, 2xVypers; Selling for $125, valued @ $220, savings of $95.

Chaos Tide of Spawn: 10xCSM, 10xSpawn; Retailing @ $110, valued @$155, savings of $45.

Tau Armored Interdiction Force: 2xHammerheads, 1xSkyray; retailing @ 90, valued @ 120, savings of $30.

Off-topic, but the High Elf Army box is dropping same week, I'll post the contents on the Fantasy forum if anyone's interested.

Releasing 10/29:

IG Basilisk Battery; 3xBasilisk kits, Again, 90/120/30.

Tau Rapid Insertion Force; 3 Stealth Suits, Nine Crisis Suits, $125/$200/$75

SM Linebreaker Formation: 3 Vindicators (new plastic!), $120. No discount?!

Eldar Cloudbreaker Formation: 3 Falcon Grav Tanks: $90/120/30

The other 16 boxes are a similar spread of sizes and values, apparently they just don't think sales are going to be stong enough for the other armies to justify being normally available to stores. I know I can order through direct with my account and get them without too much trouble, I'd imagine that's the case with most people, though, so it doesn't strike me as a terrible handicap. I was surprised there wasn't at least one 'nid set as a general release, though.

Quelle: wargate.de, aber der Poster da hat es sicher von Warseer

Eigentlich nur nochmal eine Auflistung der Preise und was man spart und noch bissle geqautsche dazu.

Überdies muss ich sagen, dass mir der neue Vindi mal extrem gut gefällt, weiter so GW.

Hat wer da mal ein Bild zu? - Kraterset (10 Stück) - 15,-€

[Berock]

Sollte im April ein Stompa erscheinen, wären die Formen bereits in Arbeit...

... und das sieht wirklich nicht wie ein Modell aus, was sich verkaufen würde....

Gruß Ralf

[wemse]

Hat wer da mal ein Bild zu? - Kraterset (10 Stück) - 15,-€

Schau mal in den GW Sneakpeaks

[Eridian]

Wenn das wirklich zehn Krater in den Ausmaßen von dem Bild sind, dann sind 15€ aber wirklich mal ein Schnäpchen...

... was ich mir aber schwer bei GW vorstellen kann - nicht, das es mich nicht freuen würde

[Egalisator]

Welche von den Apocalypse-Kombis wird man denn eigentlich in normalen 40k-Spielen einsetzen können? Der Text bei den VuV (der mit "ab 3 Mutanteneinheiten alle Imptruppen wählbar") klingt so und bei Banblades gits ja als recht sicher, aber bei Fexen, Monos und Falcons hoffe ich jetzt nicht besonders drauf, das die gestärkt werden...

[arzaphan]

Also zu Scorpion: dafür wird es KEIN eigenes Modell geben - den muss man sich selber bauen

Zum Stompa - das Ding auf dem, Bild ist ein Eigenbau und würde sich wohl nicht gut verkaufen. Ich würde da eher auf das Teil von dem Teaser von Medusa V setzen!

[basic]

Das ist ein Eigenbau. Irgendwo auf Warseer ist gibt es einen Thread dazu.